last year, i listened to a talk on cd from a member of the governing body, brother losch.
he says the dead bodies will be all over the place and we will have to bury them.
it has been mentioned on this forum many times.. so i knew that my family had not heard the talk, or else they would definitely have talked about it.
Where shall I start? it's hard to choose.
When 3 elders told me in 1 week that the brothers and sisters were to blame for 1975.
when an old 'friend' said, even if she saw coruption in the Governing Body, she would not leave.
When 2 pioneer 'friends' said, whilst refering to the generation change." It makes perfect sense."
(The fact that they both said this to me, when they were both from different congregations made me wonder if all the pioneers had been told to say this.)
most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
?.
I still have my family, so I got off lightly.. I lost all my 'friends' though.. and I can't pretend. It hurt.
a couple of things that come to mind: celebrate holidays and go tieless..
I have much more time!and life seems so much simpler, even though I am very active.
I can now study for a teaching degree( just finising 1st year)
I can now take up training opportunities at work( just completed a course)
I can sleep in on Saturdays and am enjoying many enjoyable hobbies; including, becoming a scout leader and my son a scout.
I enjoy wonderful birthday, christmas, newyear and easter celebrations. I felt the joy of watching my son open his presents and cards for his 13th birthday. I am looking forwards to going to my dads 80th birthday party.
I can be myself and speak from the heart.
I have more friends at work. I am catching up on all the films I've missed.( Before I only watched 12 certificates and less.)
the grandma just got some instructions from one of the elders on how to handle babysitting her infant grandchild.
when the daughter brings the baby to the house, she should hand it to the grandpa.
(that's ok because grandpa has never been baptized).
If only it was so straight forwards...
children often have a very special relationship with their grandparents. If the grandchild doesn't see grandma then there is a loss to the child and to the daughter who may want to share her child's love with her own mother.
Of course the distructive Organisation strikes again!
Causing pain to all concerned!
the grandma just got some instructions from one of the elders on how to handle babysitting her infant grandchild.
when the daughter brings the baby to the house, she should hand it to the grandpa.
(that's ok because grandpa has never been baptized).
i needed room when i moved so i sadly threw my entire library away.
i mentioned this to an exjw.
he and his wife took all the hundreds of books, including bound volumes from the 1800s and are now using them for research and proof of watchtower lies.. what did you do with your books?.
To start I threw out the revelation book. Then all the stored magazines. Later I took all the books off the shelves and put single copies into my son's room, as he is still going. (He keeps them in a black sack under his bed) I then took down my pioneer picture and threw out my pioneer book. Next went the tapes and videos and Dvds. Lastly I threw out the New Word Translation. Then I stopped calling God Jehovah. This week after being shunned by the last ones to completely shun me, I deleted all JW phone numbers. So now, I'm all clear.
i followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and i made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the county so he could talk to someone.
it took two months to get it.
we went yesterday, he and i. i spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the jws, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and adhd...and then she spoke to my son separately.
I am so sorry that your son is in such distress.
Yet, he is able to recognise that he needs help.That is the first step to recovery.
You were very proactive in taking him to a counselor.
x SC
what is wt policy concerning illegitimate children?.
if child is conceived out of wedlock but parents wed before the birth, how does wt determine if they "qualify" for spiritual inheritance?.
does wt have any policy concerning jehovah's acceptance of illegitimate children of single mothers?.
I personally knew of a sister that had a child out of wedlock..when this sister, who later married the non JW father. was having a hard time keeping her youngest toddler quiet...I found the congregation, in general very intollerant and insensitive. Also her eldest daughter, aged 13 was being stalked by a known pervy brother(he offered her jewellery and kept hounding her.) and the elders were not seeing it from the teenagers view point at all.They counselled the brother, yet refused to move her out of his book group...( he kept sitting next to her)
When I complained that, if she were an elders daughter they would have done something..I was reminded of the nature of her birth( I tell no lie, I could hardly believe what I was hearing!) Her mother is a very sweet, honest lady, who I believe, wisely found herself a very nice, caring husband outside the Org. Yet no matter what she did since, or how she is as a christian, she, nor her children get the same treatment. I've heard similar stories from others.
yesterday in the car group in service, 5 of us in one suv.
so someone says that on friday, a worldly family member of their bible study had died of a drug overdose.
then he said, "well, that the protection that we have being in jehovah's organization.".
Moshe...One of the first things I did when I came off pioneering and left was to go to the dentist and the doctors and to sleep in every weekend. I had been neglecting my health, too busy trying to reach my hours.
At the time, I realized I mustn't, especially as some years earlier, a friend of mine died of cervical cancer because she did not go back for a repeat test. she was too busy working and pioneer, with a young son.
Also, I knew some very fragile, always depressed, JW sister friends who had had breakdowns, usually from trying to stay pioneering, whilst working, or with children. They told stories of being let down by the congregation, elders, family, or they were sad because they couldn't get someone to date them, never mind marry them. Also they wanted children.
I knew of 2 suicides that rocked the congregations. Both these sisters were genuine and sweet. They tried so hard to please 'Jehovah.'
I knew of many that were just not supported when they needed help(Just judged and marked!)
did you have enough of boasting, and decided to walk out?.
that's what happened to me during this week's bs about how to "treat the disfellowshipped"?.
i just picked up my bag and stormed out...... will i get called into the back room?.
I asked my son about the book study and mentioned African GB's comment. My son said he felt like walking out..(but he didn't)
